Or, who knew bloggers had homework?
First, I’d like to give a warm welcome to anyone here from the Problogger community. Anyone here from Problogger? It’s a great community isn’t it? A lot of really interesting people post there, just a wealth of information to be had. Fine, fine people, give yourselves a hand!
But what is up with the community challenge? Write a list post, okay, I get it, it’s something that works in all genres, people like lists, but I was kind of hoping Darren would get up there and say “Right then, kumquat, finagle, opossum and jurisprudence. Write a post containing all of these words and nobody tell the rest of the internet what we’re up to. G’day mates!”
Because you know, I could do that, I’m feeling that. I’m just not feeling list-y today. Lots of reasons why.
1. I never know how many items constitutes a good and reasonable list
Vaguely remember reading somewhere that it’s not 10 and 2 is just a couple and 3 is a few, and in my mind a couple and a few aren’t really a list. You just don’t get any momentum with a couple and a few. On the other hand four is evenly divided by 2 and that just doesn’t appeal to me. 5 seems okay and is the exception to my aversion to odd numbers but 6 is more than 5. 7 is a lucky number except I read that somewhere with a lot of people it is inauspicious. I can’t afford to lose any readers! 8 seems like the chartered accountant of numbers, solid but also dreadfully dull. 9? Well if you’re going to do 9 then why not an even 10? Oh yeah, because I think I remember 10 is not good. And 11 is just taking the piss, who’d read that much?
It occurs to me I could have made a very good list just typing out the numbers and an argument for and against each one. I’ll put that in my ideas file.
2. Am conflicted on how to format a list
Do I use the numbered list function in WordPress? Headlines? Where do indents come in? Are bullet points extra-scannable?
3. Everyone knows list posts are popular
I know because I’ve read it on all the list posts on how to get retweeted, linked, bookmarked and Facebooked. So now whenever I do a list post I feel like there is a group there over in the corner mumbling about how they liked me back before I got popular by selling out and doing list posts. 4/5 of them only heard about me yesterday.
4. Lists are so high school
Just like everything else on the internet! Except me, I’m all grown up and mature and crap.
5. One item is always neglected in comments
There will be all sorts of agreement and discussion about the other items. Oh yes, I totally agree 2, that happens to me all the time. 7 is right on the money, you nailed it! One thing I’d like to add on to 4 is…. But poor number 3 is just hanging out there, getting no love and it kind of makes you second guess yourself. Were you wrong to include it? Is it just not worthy of your list?
Then the righteous indignation sets in and you curse the world for being blind to just how brilliant number 3 really is. For you, YOU were just like unappreciated item 3 in high school. And those bastids still can’t see how special you really are.
6. Everyone wants to add their own item
Blah blah blah you left out this, you should have mentioned that, where is so and so. I’ve read on some “expert” blogs that you should thank your commenters for their feedback and adding to the conversation because everyone has something to offer. That’s not how I work. I didn’t sign up for this gig not to be a narcissistic tyrant. Adoration, that’s what I signed up for, pure 100% unquestioning adoration.
7. Lists progress in an orderly fashion
One, two, three, four, A, B, C, D…it’s that sort of linear thinking that the man wants to encourage in us to keep us down.
Think about it.
Just think about it.
8. Not conducive to tangents
Sometimes in the middle of a post I want to stop and talk about how JERKS who honk at me at intersections are IMPATIENT FOOLS who don’t value SAFETY. People tend to want lists to be a collection of related things and if you don’t deliver, they shake their heads and walk away.
And then go off to blow their horns at people who just like to be really, really sure before they make a left turn.
9. I dislike favoritism
I haven’t figured out a way to give each item an equal number of words and space and that makes me feel guilty.
10. Once I wrote a list called “A bunch of random items”
It was from a meme. Oddly enough, it gets search traffic as does 5 things I’m addicted to. Who are these people searching for “list of random things”? I wish they would comment on the post and tell me what they wish they would have found so that I can better serve my core audience of people searching on the internet for truly bizarre things like “hate giving up on people but I’m afraid I have to” and “why do I secretly hope all my friends fail?”
Another list post I did that gets search traffic is 5 Super Creepy Songs.
I guess I do like the part about making lists where I get to shamelessly self promote.
11 I always forget one item
Because I write the title first and then commit to a certain number but then I get to that number and realize dang, I forgot the last thing. So I just make something up. Usually something life affirming, people eat that positive crap up.
So remember LIST stands for Life Is Super Terrific!







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#3 never gets the recognition it deserves. Looking at #1 I have seen anywhere from 1 to over 300 items in one freaking list post. Come on 300? …that is insane!
Hahahaha, a great list. I had many moments reading through when I laughed a little too loud.
Great stuff, see ya back at pb.com
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This was so very funny! Just like Kuzzak I was laughing to loud. Especially when I came to #5 about poor number 3.
I hope to see you more often do some things you dislike.
Thanks for the compliments and taking the time to come over here and comment. It’s great to meet you!
You should’ve had 12 items. Nobody will read a list with 11 items; but 12? Twelve is like crack to list addicts, they’re all over that!
Really, with 11 it seems like you’re not even trying.
Ha ha, you can still write a post including “kumquat, finagle, opossum and jurisprudence”. Oh wait, you just did.
#8 is vital to your well-being. Can’t live without randomness

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Actually having items not in the list is a good thing because it encourages commentators to add them in the comments.
I think the main reason lists posts are popular is because it is easy for readers to quickly scan over and get the main bullets points of the post. This accommodates the reading habits of many web surfers.
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Numbered lists imply priorities which exacerbates 9 but without numbers how do you identify items?
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A list of why you don’t like lists… quite clever.
Perhaps it’s just the way that we sometimes think. We like to group things together under a common theme. Having lists is a way of looking at that grouping and comparing it to others.
My wife loves to list things– I don’t. I tend to keep lists in my head– mostly because things are never in the order that you list them. Darn me for being so abstract and parallel at the same time.
Let me know if any of your list items needs attention and I will comment again.
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Heh, I just did a list post for my work blog last night and ran out of steam at No. 7 out of 10. Definitely helps to have the list before you start writing.
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“Anyone here from Problogger?”
I AM!!! **waves**
I so agree with 2! I had to use text, headers & pictures to split all the points up!
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Yeap, I always forget one item I’m the forgetful one in the family and this just gets on my nerves.
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My first visit this is good stuff.
Dorothy from grammology
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I’m a reformed problogger groupie who had a recent relapse when I signed up for his newly launched forum. Does that count in my favor?
I know, I should have waited till I have a non-list post showing up on your commentluv. LOL Just can’t pretend I’m above list now, can I. Can’t resist leaving a comment because I so love your anti-list post. Oh, by the way, my heart bleeds for number 3 as well. Ungrateful bastids. “,)
Hey Tracy,
The next time you do a list, use characters for bullets. Like Korean characters or something. Or something unrelated like pictures of different cookies. Let folks do the math to see if you really did ten things – or eleven, or whatever.
George
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Yup, I feel the same about list posts.
It’s interesting that each and every survey says that list posts absolutely, definitely work online.
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Came in via Kikolani’s “Fetching Friday;” I personally despise list posts – I think they’re the refuge of many of who have absolutely nothing to say. I loved your reason #4 – I remember the movie “High Fidelity” and John Cusack’s utterly inane behavior writing top 5 lists all the time. That wasn’t high school, but boy: it’s scary when we grow up and we’re still the same people we were in high school.
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Thanks for stopping by everyone. I don’t hate all list posts but I think we’ve all landed on particularly uninspired ones and rolled our eyes.
It’s a pretty good way to present information IF you actually have some information of value to present. Which I never do, bless my heart.
I thought it was funny that there were 11. What an odd number but way to get me over here. See ya in the Problogger threads!
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Hi DubiousMa I loved your lists! Thanks for stopping by!
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I have a hate hate relationship with list posts. I know I’m supposed to do them, but I obviously don’t do them well as they never seem to gain much traction. Though now I do have an awesome idea for “10 Reasons Why My List Posts Always Suck.”
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Ooooh write it! Write it now!
Hi Tracy,
Nice to be in your site again. Think this is my second visit here if I remember it correctly.
I like list posts. I’m with Gerald when he said “lists post is easy for readers to quickly scan over and get the main bullets points of the post”. It’s a huge time saver, for both the writer and reader. I did some lists myself, mostly because the applications introduced are meant to be in list. ^^ It’s one of the writing formats, but not to be overdone. It doesn’t always have to be a must write as what matters most is the content you’re going to convey. I wouldn’t love a story to be told in bullet points or lists. Also, you definitely don’t have to write one if you don’t feel like it.
Very catchy post indeed. Keep up the good writing.
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Great list
Seriously though, I can identify with all your point. I try to stay away from list posts, but for some reason they are always my most popular posts. It feels wrong doing the popular thing. I guess lists are popular for a reason?
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LOL! That was funny. You wrote a list of reasons of why you don’t like lists

I actually love lists they’re so easy to read and sometimes easier to write. Simply because we don’t need to keep worrying about the transition of one paragarph to the next. We also don’t need to think about tying in the first paragaph top the second and so on. Lists are just easy peasy – hee hee.
Love your conversationalist style of writing.
All the best,
Eren
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Hi Tracey – I missed this first time round and I’m LMAO at number 11. I hate when I do list posts & I miscount them – some smart ass commenter always criticises you for that.
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I like the smarty pants commenters that pop in to say you forgot something and it was there all along and they never come back to acknowledge how very right you were.
They are on a list somewhere, oh yes they are.
Just did my first list post and settled on 5 to start. Dunno, but just couldn’t get momentum. http://lisa-griffiths.com/cozy-living-what-else-is-here-besides-disney/
Not sure I’m down with the list thingy. We’ll see, I might try again in the future. Or not!
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Hi Lisa! I think some subjects lend themselves better to lists and some writers find it more natural than others. I know *they* say you should do them, but eh, if it’s not working for you, then pah on the lists.
I will say they get easier the more practice you get at them. I do a lot of writing for other blogs and many times they’ll request list posts specifically so I can do them in my sleep. Which is one of the reasons I’m not over-crazy about them, a lot of folks do them because they tend to do well, but don’t worry too much about how much actual information they are giving.
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